Wild Earth Guardians must be drinking.
May 26th, 2008 by admin
www.wolfcrossing.org has 100 bucks in our bank account, nobody is ever paid there are 4 moderators that work this blog when they have time. How pathetic and hilarious that they, Wild Earth Guardians, are telling their donors we have millions and they can’t compete. Yet they have chosen to participate in two new lawsuits to harm our family’s. But what the heck the free P.R. is sure upping our hits and getting the truth out. So thanks WEG! We appreciate the plug and are returning the favor.
Dear Guardian,
Wolf. What does that word evoke for you? For your friends and family? For a livestock industry lobbyist? For me, the word “wolf” evokes another word: “wild”. It is the presence of wolves on the landscape that ultimately determines how wild that landscape is. Without that wild heart, the land spirals into ever more degraded forms. Indeed, without that wild heart, much of the American West is a withered husk. Help us keep that wild heart beating by donating now. WildEarth Guardians is committed to weaving wolves back into the American West. In 2008, we’ve already taken two important steps toward restoring the beating heart of the Western Wild. First, in Colorado, we’ve launched a series of legal challenges aimed at compelling the federal government to reintroduce wolves to the Southern Rockies (which includes most of western Colorado, portions of northern New Mexico and southern Wyoming). Second, in the Southwest, we’ve initiated a legal effort to rescue the faltering Mexican Wolf recovery program, and to turn the tide against a well funded anti-wolf campaign in the region. However, the success of our efforts to weave wolves back into the landscape depends on your continued support. In Colorado, WildEarth Guardians filed suit this spring against a National Park Service plan to cull elk in Rocky Mountain National Park using sharpshooters. Over the past three years, the agency has received volumes of information from citizens, scientists, and WildEarth Guardians indicating that Rocky Mountain National Park needs wolves to keep the park’s elk moving. Instead, the agency chose the path of timidity. Check out this story from CBS Channel 4 in Denver on the lawsuit. Now, the livestock industry is lining up lawyers and “experts” to help defend the National Park Service’s decision to ignore the need for wolves. In New Mexico, WildEarth Guardians recently filed suit against both the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service and the U.S. Forest Service, charging that specific livestock industry-centric policies of these two agencies are undermining the effort to restore Mexican wolves to the Southwest. Not surprisingly, because we’ve taken direct aim at the hegemony of the livestock industry, agribusiness is ginning up the anti-wolf propaganda machine. In the last few months, we’ve seen several counties pass anti-wolf resolutions. We’ve also seen “wolf proof” bus shelters spring up in rural New Mexico, with much fanfare on the anti-wolf website Wolfcrossing.org. Wolf-proof bus shelters? We can’t seem to find a single instance of gray wolves ever taking children from bus stops (or anywhere else, for that matter). As the anti-wolf hysteria becomes more shrill, the lobo teeters on the brink of extinction once again, with less than fifty individuals left in the wilds of New Mexico and Arizona. In the coming months, WildEarth Guardians will unveil more creative initiatives to rekindle the lobo’s chances in the Southwest, and to restore gray wolves to the vast wilds of western Colorado. Without question, we will continue to meet stiff resistance from the ranching industry. Yet, despite the multi-million dollar propaganda and legal budget of the ranching industry, we are confident we will ultimately succeed in reviving the wild heart of the American West. Why? Because people like you support us, with both your time and money. Because your support keeps us on the hunt for a wilder tomorrow. Because restoring wolves to the hunting grounds of their ancestors is the right thing to do. Won’t you take a moment now to show your support for WildEarth Guardians’ bold vision of a wilder American West? Make a generous donation before June 30th to help protect wolves in the West.
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This is too funny “despite the multi-million dollar propaganda and legal budget of the ranching industry, ” The ONLY part of the this whole wolf program collecting MILLIONS is these nuts. No solution only more lawsuits to force a useless program down America’s throat. Every single person that watches Undue Burden changes their mind on the wolf. The truth and reality of living with wolves is not what these groups tell the American public. These groups don’t care about Americans making a living they only care about the millions pouring into their bank accounts.
Mr. Edward,
If we make irresponsible statements without knowing our facts up front, we need to and do make those corrections. You are not well informed. Please come to visit us in Catron County and we can share the real facts and truths with you. If you still disagree, you are free to do so. However, you have a responsibility as a public writer to get the facts straight ASAP. You may reply to me if you are serious about visiting and meeting with some of us. I can make the arrangements.
I am ever amazed at the urban public and how easily they are duped by the bunnyhuggers. The folks that fund groups like Wild Earth Guardians, The Nature Conservancy, Green Peace, and all the rest should take a close look at those outfits and see just how much money they have and where it comes from. They would find that contrary to the constant cries of poverty, they are in fact multi million dollar non profit scams. Many of the executives of these groups live pretty well and much of this “executive privilage” comes at taxpayer expence. Species protection has become an industry in its’ own right. I know exactly how “well funded” we are. The resistance to the wolf is about as pure grass roots as it gets. All over the rural west we put in our mite. Trying to fight off these behemouth megebucks nonprofits. And strange as it may sound, We Are making a dent in them!! As people find out the truth, they invariably come around.
I know two things for sure. The truth is a perfect defence and If you tell one lie, you need to tell a bigger one to get out of the first one. Keep on lying WEG!! WE love ya for it!
He justs wants donations for gasoline for his SUV he is almighty proud of. I would donate an all expense paid back country trip deep into the Frank Church Wilderness with no guns, just him and nature I would even let him use a pack Lama or two, Its my terms though, I get to fly him in deep about 45 miles drop him off with all his goods he must walk out to a designated trail head chosen by me. Two week minimum. He will be allowed a sat phone to call me for rescue with in case he founders, or gets tired of being up a tree.
“We can’t seem to find a single instance of gray wolves ever taking children from bus stops (or anywhere else, for that matter).”
Dear Robbie,
Read Wolves In Russia by Will Graves. Read When Do Wolves Become Dangerous To Humans by Val Geist. Study the news reports of wolves attacking children in Prince Rupert, BC. Read the various reports about Kenton Carnegie. Watch the documentary Undue Burden–The Real Cost of Living With Wolves by Bruce Hemmings.
Do your homework before you spout off about your ignorance. And by the way, wolves do not “take” children; they stalk and attack children, ripping children with huge canine teeth, and attempt to kill and eat children. “Take” is such a insensitive word that it is nauseating coming from you.
The citizens of Catron Co. saw a real need to build wolf-proof shelters. You smirk with ignorance about it. How many children do you have? If they were stalked by wolves, if wolves roamed their school playgrounds, would you be so snarky about it?
Is it the goal of WildEarth Guardians to promote the killing of children by wolves? Is that your cause that you wish people to donate to? Do you value the “lobo” over human lives, livelihoods, public safety, private property, and other human rights?
I find your appeal pathetic and disgusting. What kind of human beings are you?
Oh My, Apparently Mr. Edward doesn’t read the news so he can stay completely uninformed about the wolf child interactions in the southwest. Apparently he has never read the 5 year review or any of the documentation by the counties affected by problem animals the world over. Ignorance will not help the wolf recovery. Being armed with facts and an open mind and unbiased agenda is what will help the recovery.
So far I am not impressed with these anti human hate mongers.
Since when is there a well funded anti-wolf campaign? It seems they are the ones with all the money. So we have a real anti-wolf organization, one that gets grants and is a tax exempt organization? If so please tell me about it. The average public lands rancher is not rich, he loves the land and the outdoors and his or her way of life just as much as the enviros. They are jealous of their lifestyle. The rich ranchers own as much private land as they can so they don’t have to deal with this sort of thing.
I think they forget that a big (and wealthy) rancher in that area helped fund the recovery in the beginning only to get bit in the a– by his cattle being attacked for the fun of it. WEG & Defenders and all the other supporters forget that some ranchers tried to work with the system. It is the SYSTEM more than it is the wolves. The wolves and the cattle (or other animals that are victims of wolves) are the scape goats, depending on what side you are on. The lies, the slander against ranchers and cattle are a big problem from the ranching stand point. Supporters are trying to make the ranchers and their stock enemies in the public eye. Not all ranchers are wolf haters. Ranchers are the first to be suspected of killing a wolf, if one gets killed, so I am sure they are not the ones doing the killing. There are a lot of people using public lands, horses, cattle, dogs and many other things are killed for no reason. Some people come to public lands to just to shoots something. Not during hunting season, I am talking about people that like to just shoot at things. What they don’t inform the public is that without ranchers on the public lands, there would be no water development; less wildlife, therefore less wolves and food for wolves. Who would pick up the trash after hunting season, not WEG or Dow. Oh yes, I forgot, they want hunting stopped too. Next, you Joan and John Q Public, the ones they say own these lands, will not be able to use public lands to go camping, hiking, horseback riding etc. It is all about them and their agenda.
Let the supports keep harassing ranchers, and then ranchers will sell out. Ranchers that lease public land’s, have to have private land in order to have the public land leases. So when they sell it will go to developers, because a rancher can’t or won’t be able to get it. Then when they subdivide the hell out of it and there is about 1,000 people living in these little subdivisions, crying wolf, then the public will have to listen. Is that what will keep the west wild, a bunch of subdivisions? I don’t think so. You people better come together. WEG & DoW need to really see what is involved in this entire thing. We CAN NOT GO BACK TO THE OLD DAYS, it will never be that wild. There are too many people, and just because they live in places like Santa Fe, there are people besides ranchers inhabiting our rural lands, they have been for centuries. Wolves can be there, but they need to be able to fear man, that is part of what this system is not allowing. When animals do not fear humans, or respect humans, they endanger themselves. They have to expend their territory; they have no natural predator, only man. Do they not understand the balance there? I agree you should not just go kill a wolf because it is in front of and not trying to kill anything. But if you were able to shoot off a gun, or shoot at them when they are coming near your home, near your pets, children, horses, livestock, you should be able to scare them off, so they fear man, When they don’t scare off, and it is an obvious threat, you should be able to legally defend that property, friend or relative without having to wait for something or someone to be killed.
I can go on an on, so I better stop. I challenge all of you to write a letter to WEG and DOW let the people that actually live out there tell them. Not all of us that our opposed to the system of the recovery are in ranching. Maybe we need to start making contributions to wolf.org or if there is a group that can represent the people that want to enjoy the public lands too.
admin,
This is what the article says,
“Wild Earth Guardians will unveil more creative initiatives to rekindle the lobo chances in the Southwest, and to restore gray wolves to the vast wilds of western Colorado. Without question, we will continue to meet stiff resistance from the ranching industry. Yet, despite the multi-million dollar propaganda and legal budget of the ranching industry,…..”
I did not realize this blog was in fact the “ranching industry”.
What a curious prevaricator you are.
One of our administrators is a small less than 100 cows rancher in the blue range wolf recovery.
One is a computer software writer who doesn’t know one end of a cow from the other.
One is a retired government employee.
One is a forest restoration activist.
On occasion, there are others who write or submit content but these are the main bloggers on this website.
Any questions?
which has what to do with the misrepresentation of the statement in question?
Ahh Aesopianist Fabianist wolfus maximus lover is back how qaint another little citizen for global solutions with a myriad of little drummer boys for the N.W.O. and their C.M plan to eliminate family, rural cummunitys, county, state and national governments, replacing them with regionally administered regions whose administrators are to be appointed by the U.N. They have loosed thier dogs amongst us and stand about shouting about their political correctness which is in fact the primary means used in academia by these twits to back government to force society into acceptance of their beloved N.W.O. dictates. It is un-American being totally communist in nature. The next wolf I kill will be mounted and called AESOP.
Farber,
We have already established your lack of veracity on any given topic. What is utterly laughable is that you apparently do not even know not only who Aesop was but the fact that he lived in the SEAT of democracy upon which all other democracies are modeled on. You are a buffoon.
Of course I know this Moron, Aesop was the Buffoon and had you studied Socrates, Aristodemos, Plato and his defeat in debate by Socrates you would know this, as well as the world history of failed democracys per say as they all fell into blind Socialism and self destructed. Get a clue and go read Leo Struass Xeneophon’s Socrates, Also The Guide of the Perplexed by Moses Maimonides, with Shlomo Pines and an essay by Strauss. Try the History of Political Philosophy with Strauss and Cropsey. Why do you think our founders insisted on a Republic 232 years ago???? They knew more about World History than the average American dumbass of today, yourself included. Your a Fabianist and you don’t even know it. Guess what Twit, Farmers and Ranchers feed your dumb ass, wolves Don’t.
I believe we demonstrated exactly what was implied by the letter. That they believe www.wolfcrossing.org is the ranching industry and has millions at their disposal. They mention ranching industry above the link to this site and again below it. The context is clearly to demonstrate that we are some huge anti-wolf conglomerate funded by millions from the ranching industry. Which they know couldn’t be further from the truth.
You asked a question about this website being the ranching industry and I answered it.
Since we didn’t take the letter out of context and even posted it in it’s entirety your accusation that we misrepresented anything is just more whining and you look ridiculous. If you don’t like it that we exposed this stupendous fib that they are David fighting Goliath then stop defending the Wild Earth Guardians unless they clean up their act.
Our website is educational and directed to show people who want to know about wolves the real thing, not the gussied up version you see everywhere else, including WEG’s publications. We are pro- rural people, and for accurate information, not anti wolf.
Thank you for the literary and history lesson Greg. I will certainly do that reading but I doubt our Aesop will go much further than the fables.
Farber,
So you found some Greek names on Wikipedia (all of which lived~ more than 100 years after Aesop died) and with the help of spell check and your fifth grade neighbor kid managed to post them here and then act like you have accomplished something. You are a laugh a minuet.
admin,
The only sentence in the whole article that even mentions this blog is concerning the bus stop cages that have been put up and with a link to that story as posted on this blog. To the contrary, especially in reference to your post on the AZ Republic story and your “Big Fat Hairy Lie” post it would be you that looks more than ridiculous.
But it is your fable, tell it anyway you want.
If it is ridiculous to document and address a blatantly cynical and falsely misleading article, one that is designed to harm people and make worse a situation then yes I am ridiculous.
If using facts studies and public record for backup, rather than rhetoric yes I am ridiculous.
If it is ridiculous to be providing photographic evidence that a blatant untruth and injustice has occurred to people who are innocent, then ok I will be ridiculous. No problem I can handle your definition of ridiculous.
We let other readers make their own judgement on what they think is ridiculous or not, that is why we posted the entire WEG letter rather than just a partial. We may have our opinion on that letter, but we didn’t hide what it really said and spin it. It was dumb enough on it’s own.
Aesop, your Democracy went Socialist during the FDR Administration, that means gone fool, your Socialist bunkum pretending Democracy has gone Cultural Marxist, and I’m being nice. One of the biggest delusions of u.s. corporate citizens is not only do they think they are Americans, but that they retain their Constitutional rights that they still live in a country with a working democracy. WRONG. American Democracy is delusional because the two-party plutocracy makes citizens economic slaves. This represses political dissent. It is 21st century tyranny. Two-party presidential candidates, unlike our founders, lack courage to fight and revolt against tyranny. Placebo voting distracts citizens from the political necessity of fighting the plutocracy. Other Cowards such as yourself support it. Plutocrats stole tax dollars and used those funds to set up this wolf program. No body voted on the issue, the wolf was dumped in our laps. Even the real aesop would say this is not democracy. You can not debate thus you trash talk, I can do both. Heres a clue for ya dummy, Wikipedia is edited by the government all the time, they have been caught doing it. I do know five year olds who offer more intellectual conversation than this drivel you have offered us up till now. Like I told you once before, go read the Communist Manifesto and those ten planks and then go look in the mirror dipstick. At least I know what I am, you only think you do.
And heck if this administration wants to give me your URL identification numbers well then heck, I got a hunting buddy in the FBI in Michigan owes me a favor for that last elk I stood him up in front of then we can just write your tardo stupid but a letter, maybe even post your real name on your comments for ya whale dung.
So instead of having the readers such as Farber judge this, who would not know a Marxist even if one planted a flag in his back door, why not run the whole shebang by a high school English instructor and see if the context equates with this blog being the “ranching industry”?
LMAO, thats good a Websters Rockefeller Dewey stooge and trained English hype school indoctrinator who couldn’t find their way out of a english hegelian 1st grade lesson. Once we can agree on qualifications lets start with the FWS wolf ranching financial fiasco, we can start with the misappropriation of tax-payers funds used to set up this preconcieved idea backed by no official science and sucked up by a gullible mis-informed public. HA. FWS=Fabianist Wolfie Scheme to steal land.
Whew! Between Greg and Aesop. Why, it just gets way to deep for a rural western bumkin such as myself. But I will go on what I know for sure and some of what I surmise.
I know that Greg lives in wolf country. I’m thinkin’ he is a westerner.
I know he is at times vitrolic. Well, alot of us are comin’ to that.
I know that he has at least two operable brain cells, cause anytime they slam into each other we can hear it way down in the southern Gila. I know he loves the rural west.
Aesop I am guessin’ is one of those eastern pilgrims who, back in the 70s listened to alot of John Denver (or heard him in the womb). Just felt compelled! to move to Colorado? bake bread and wear Brekendorfer sandals. I am also sure that if asked he/she would regale you with tales of all the time spent in the bush. Much like the wolf lover lady I heard at a wolf meeting. She spent every spare moment in the “wilderness” . The gal went a full 300 and appeared to be pretty much foundered. I’m thinkin’ her idea of “Wilderness” was to drive up to the first roadside campsite with a stout bench. Waddle over, open up her happy meal and “commune with nature” for a bit before drivin’ back to Silver City for more fries and a diet coke.
I would never begrudge any person, even Aesop a place in the west. Anyone has a right to live where ever they like. Some just have no busness livin here. Its kinda like Arab horses and Heeler dogs. Good things both of em. But not everybody needs to own one.
Of course on alot of this Im just guessin’, hick that I am.
Well Frank these fools ruined my forest haunts backside of no-tellum crick and being a hick with sound mind and two brain cells left over from all that burnt powder sniffing and Dupont tasting in the re-loader room I got peeved and dug me a fox hole and got out that ole book collection again and went to waging information war against liars and thieves. Once in a while I disappears down into my cave and loads me up some more anti-commy devices for me riffle and then I get back to my books and beat some more drums, thats empty headed suckers like Aesop the dope. I just hope that law book collection dont never tip over and get me, cause it will be my demise.
So I guess a child needs to be chewed on before these people get it. So it must be the family’s fault because maybe that child had cow pop on his shoes and thus baited the wolf to bite them.
These people do have a clue about scare tatics and how to fill up their bank accounts with dollars from the uninformed. They do not want the truth being heard and have to discredit it and whine about it.
AESOP, you really have a hate on! Most of what you say is cutting below the belt. Little of what you say is in support of having wolves in my back yard.
Many of the good people who write blogs on this website use very poor spelling and gammar, not to mention poor sentence structure. Some of these folks don’t understand that writing is supposed to be “proper English form,” and not verbatum as we speak it. Most of the pro-wolf bloggers have a horrible command of the English language, let alone the ability to write in proper form. And, so do some of our rural victims. Let’s not insult people because they have no writing skills, and let’s not assume that means they are not educated or not intelligent. Some of the most intelligent persons I know have no formal education. Some of the most educated persons I know cannot speak or write properly. What’s the point?
This website is for exchanging ideals and viewpoints. It isn’t for degrading and belittling. Neither is it a forum for telling everyone what a jerk Bush is, or isn’t. Lots of the rural people, including ranchers, are Democrats or Libertarians or something else. What party they vote should never be a prerequisite for whether or not we receive their ideas or them with respect.
I have been invited to become one of the administrators of this website. If I accept, I will expect you to limit your comments to the wolf issue and not to question the intellectual or educational qualifications of anyone who challenges you. I will not tolerate the hate that you have expressed above. I will only allow posting of your pro-wolf comments that are written in respect to others. While on that subject, you owe an apology to SisterFlash. Her children are victims of wolves and she deserves the respect due a mother.
It’s always some “industry” with the Fabian socialists: the livestock industry, timber industry, transportation industry, health care industry, worm farm industry, you name it. They oppose industry. They also oppose “development” meaning any human built thing from a tiny shack to a barn to a home to a green mowed lawn. Yes, they even oppose lawns. Any sign of humanity offends them (although they all own mirrors because they are deeply enamored by their own reflections).
It’s not about the wolves. They don’t care about wolves, or polar bears, or jumping mice, or snail darters. Those animals are just handy weapons to use to hurt their fellow humans. The Fabian socialist “biologists” are out blasting barred owls with shotguns from the back of pickup trucks, but you don’t hear any hue and cry about the little owls, or demands that the blaster biologists eat the bits of feathers and bones left after close range owl “removal.”
No, the expressions of sympathy are for the fanged predators, animal and human alike. The only human lives they value are those of death row killers, arsonists, terrorists and Weatherman bomb throwers. Their animal icons are sharks, wolves, killer whales, grizzly bears, and plague rats. And the occasional snail, slug, leach, tick, or whatever is handy for punitive measures against humanity. If it hurts a human, or can be used for harm’s sake, then they adopt it as their faddish fancy.
Vegans For Carnivore Recovery! Anarchist Lawyers Opposed To Lawyers! Hegemony hunting for a wilder tomorrow with your time and money!
How laughable it is when WildEarth bemoans propaganda ginmills and lined up lawyers. It their own narcissistic reflection that frightens them so badly.
Pathetic, trite, absurd, disingenuous to the max. Look in the mirror, Rob. Take a good hard look. You should be scared, of yourself.
Cari Gillespie
You say “…This website is for exchanging ideals and viewpoints. It isn’t for degrading and belittling….”
here is an Ana of what one can expect from the common posters on this blog,
“Bruce Hemming
Well Bruce Amaro the only spineless scum I see is the pro-wolf people sitting in their homes……”
“Greg Farber
Bush is a Papal puppet and crusader you moron.”
(we could cite Farber ad nauseum)
“Kari
I happen to know the author and the children very well, and I am here to tell you idiots that this not a made up tale or hysterics! ”
“Frank “Two Jump”Morris
I am ever amazed at the urban public and how easily they are duped by the bunny huggers.”
this is just a small sample of what is liberally sprinkled throughout this blog however if one is part of the “home team”,
then it is apparently acceptable to “degrade and belittle”
So please, tell me again what this blog is all about.
Aesop,
Kinda like you assumed we are liars and such over here eh? Remember you are the instigator of the trade of insults. Your family history and service are impressive, history being my favorite topic since I was in 5th grade learning about the Civil War. I have hunted/trapped/fished/learned of Native American Herbology since childhood. I study theology,symbology,hegelian.asopian versions of english. political science, and true history. I toss about comments like the one you posted above to inspire people to ask what I mean, not to attack me. Open minded people then can do their own research into the info and decide on their own what is real or fake. I collect congressional globes, annals and records of congress, many court cases as well. I collect ancient old books, American, British, German, French, Italian, just to name a few, my collection numbers in the thousands. I am an American, thus I study our Constitution, Bill of Rights. Also in my 30 years of research I have studied Communism. I say some tough things to get folks to ask how they can learn of those things, I move a lot of unknown books, for example the 1889 book by General Thomas M. Harris, a juror at the trial of those eight people hanged for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln and Romes involvement, also a matter of U.S. Court Records. True you have not stated your position on any subject, but you have unmercifully attacked mine based on what? I raised a wolf for 14 years..wolves were living in Idaho prior to 1996, I watched a pack or packs actually from 1972 till 1998. I have watched our elk and deer being wiped out with my own eyes, I chose to stop hunting due to what I saw as unbalanced elk herds with less than a 30% cow to calf ratio. We should have been managing wolves 8 years ago. Idaho over protected cougers in the 1920s 30s, thus elk were wiped out, and were re-introduced back then, it seems history will repeat. If you choose to swallow government b.s. so be it, Like Jefferson advised I look elsewhere for truth, during 30 plus years of government studies I have found little or none in the government controlled “free” public school systems, grammer to collegiate.
Farber,
I can’t disagree with what you say about government. I never did. My simple explanation of government is that it’s primary porpose is to justify it’s own existance. That’s the short story.
By the way, my middle name is Aesop.
Assuming with out facts=ignorance.
Well then cool middle name. Assuming is ignorant agreed, but we humans assume things, some of us over come the weakness others never do. It woulda been nice to see an honest outcome to a confederated republic via democratic process as was the intent, not this governing democracy which is a historical proven failure. I believe in exposure of it. ditto.
My discontent with this wolf program began in 1999 when first hand I was seeing the changes in elk herd behaviour, and deer as well. It has only got worse here. One of my disapointments is the disappearance of native wolves which Idaho had in the first place. I watched them from 72 to 98. Other Idahoans came forward as well some with photo’s to prove it.
The damn things follow me about howling while out packing in the Frank Church and the Sawtooth. Their getting to know us, one step at a time. Some thing must give sooner or later, their right to be there or mine. It’s obvious politically what this nonsense is about. Wealth. And you said a government’s primary purpose is to sustain itself via justification, and it will steal to do it, rights, land, whatever gets in its way. I like all my tools in the shop, the wolf is a government tool. Its working.
Aesop,
Bunny Hugger is just a lot easier to say and spell. It would just take to long to write; Socialist one world pseudosceintific herb tea drinkin’ pilgrim self important demigods. Besides I probably couldn’t even spell it. Bunny hugger, yeah thats better.
I am mortified by the amount of vehemence spewed forth by the supposedly so-called wild-life lovers. They continually show their ignorance by embracing romantic folklore mostly native americans. In reality, if they found out their facts in detail before undauntingly beating the misinformed public with their warped idealism, they would know that even the native americans would remove problem animals and cull the packs when they became too abundant.
This idealism that is embraced by those who choose to decide what is best for this world and the people in it, are many times guilty of ramming it down their fellow man’s throat, whether he wants it or not.
With this in mind, their whole concept is actually detrimental to bringing back a predator in balance. Instead, the irrepairable damage the predator reintroduction folks are doing for the wolf’s cause is amazing. So . . . “when do animals quit paying the price for stupid people.” The animals cannot be in balance now nor in the near future. Quit trying to force this issue to satisfy your own ego and agenda. Start considering the animals’ welfare as well as the individuals who have to live and deal with these predators on a daily basis.
camping with horses colorado…
Sorry, don’t agree 100% with you on this!…
If you live in Colorado just wait. Soon you too will be able to witness the circus as the humanless-landscape agendists exhibit psychopathic levels of callousness, and lack of remorse and guilt for the great and disturbing harm they cause to man and beast here.
Calling themselves ‘environmentalists’ they do everything possible to pit dangerous predators, in closest possible proximity, against families and communities —all the while stirring up the urbanites to roar for more of this sickness. A variation of the Roman games perhaps, with cultural genocide and land conquest overtones.
Meanwhile these agendists and their buddies within the agencies amplify their inflictions with a shadow-play —good wolf advocate ‘versus’ bad wolf advocate. This reinforces each others cruelly used power reciprocally against the innocents, man and beast, which they victimize seemingly as a goal unto itself. This allows the criminalized program to seem magnanimous by offering up ‘interdictions’ posing as a ‘wonderful’ gesture. While this hints at long over-due lawful compliance with the fundamental law of just compensation, there is no way what wolves do here can be truly compensated, and why it also just ‘forces’ USFW (’good’ wolf advocate) to a ‘mandatory’ compromise with the ‘bad’ radical ‘environmental’ wolf advocates. The poor victimized USFW is now just absolutely ‘compelled’ by this simply awful pressure (those pesky lawsuits you know) to remove all protections of the peoples existence.
The previously loosely played rules provided too little, but at least a meagre level of the safety, domestic tranquillity, Justice, general welfare, and blessings of liberty, protections which all lawful civil servants have sworn to uphold, or by perjury forfeit all office and authority. The prohibition to the removal of problem habituated animals, which all history of large predator behavioral science teaches us are therefore likely to become more dangerous and teach other wolves to become a threat, will force a perilous cheek to jowl existance between man and beast here. The preying predators completely protected from harm, and the humans handicapped by absolutely no physical removal remedy is nothing short of criminal insanity.
This most seriously threatens the future viability of our very lives— our honorable, benign and ecologically sustainable culture and customs of this landscape. Agency oppressions continue. Illegal actions continue, by those who have already vacated their office and authority by violations, many times over, of their oaths to protect the unalienable rights of ‘We the People’ as their Supreme duty.
Meanwhile, our shadow players posture and pose yet again as the virtuous ones. Too many here have been seriously hurt by this. Expand this psychopathic swindle? Irreversibly rotten at the core?!? Its time. This program must go if sanity is to prevail.
Wow! Aesop doesn’t know when he/she is beaten. He/she just keeps coming back, like the pink bunny with the drum. Aesop never says much, just insults. It’s time to stop wasting our time and space to Aesop and block this person from future blogs. Let’s give our time and space to intelligent exchanges of ideas and solutions.
The wolf meeting on July 9th was excellent. The room was packed with helpful solutions and many in attendance are the above named bloggers, Aesop not included.
Most important, the citizens were advised of their US Constitutional Rights and New Mexico Constitutional Rights, not only by Sheriff Menges, but Commissioner Ed Wehrheim and Wolf Investigator Jesse Carey. We will be exercising those rights from today forward. We have had enough talk. We will no longer compromise with agencies that are constantly changing the rules to their own favor and our demise. From my understanding of the law, once one party breaks a contract, there is no longer a contract. Then, the first party who broke the contract cannot demand the second party comply with the contract which no longer exists because the first party broke it. How much clearer can this be? The government keeps breaking the contract and rewriting it, without any input from the rural Americans. Time out. We are no longer “meeting or compromising.” We are only going to exercise our Constitutional rights from this day forward. Done!